Against Me! frontwoman Laura Jane Grace is an endless source of inspiration: When she talks, you listen. The rock icon recently went on comedian Mark Maron's WTF podcast—you know, the one that recently hosted President Barack Obama—for an 83-minute conversation to discuss her childhood, gender transition, divorce and so much more.
What truly struck a chord with us were Grace's words on the punk community. A scene created by outsiders for outsiders, a scene that is supposed to be understanding, proved to be transphobic toward Laura Jane.
She reflected on the early days of her transition:
"[The plan was to] go ahead and come out before anything was obvious. People in the punk scene are, in general, kinda homophobic. If it had not come up, I think people would have been way more unaccepting than if I said, 'Look, this is what's going on with me, can you please fuck off while I do this.'"
She later added that as time has progressed, "punks have been really supportive and really cool. There have been a couple dicks. Don't read the comments."
Listen to the full WTF podcast with Laura Jane Grace, peruse a few more highlights if you're not in the audio zone right now, and watch Grace collaborate with Joan Jett and Miley Cyrus for a Backyard Session of "Androgynous."